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SINLIZ 1 & SINLIZ 2 - Trista's PL8STORY Podcast Plate 46 with Simon Lader from Las Vegas NV

Nov 23, 2020

sinliz1 & sinliz2 - PLATE 46 WITH SIMON LADER FROM VEGAS NV

This week we meet Simon Lader, a US based expat Brit who moved from Manchester (UK) to Las Vegas in 2013. He is a 23 year veteran of the headhunting and staffing industry. In 2005 he founded Salisi Human Capital, an international headhunting firm which he ran in Europe for eight years He expanded to the US in 2013, and in 2020 founded Salisi Academy, a career coaching and training company. Simon’s passion is in helping people have the most rewarding careers possible and is dedicated to his wife, Liz and their 3 children. Visit Salisi Group at www.simonlader.com our salisiacademy.com.


Here are the resources Simon mentioned during his interview:

Ultimate Job Hunting  toolkit at https://ultimatejobhuntingtoolkit.com

Salisi Academy FB Group (www.facebook.com/salisiacademy)

Top Five Interview Mistakes Smart People Make (and how to avoid them) at https://salisiacademy.com/fiveinterviewmistakes


Trista's PL8STORY Podcast Links

Nominate a plate - https://www.pl8story.com

Meet your host - https://www.iwokeupawesome.com

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TRANSCRIPT OF EPISODE

SINLIZ1 & SINLIZ2

 

[00:00:00]Trista, Host: [00:00:00] Welcome to this week's episode of Trista's PL8STORY  (Plate Story)  Podcast. I'm Trista Polo from iwokeupawesome.com and I am your host. Each week, we learn the story behind that vanity plate. You know, the one you saw driving down the road... what did it say? What did it mean? Why did they choose it? 

welcome. I'm so excited to have Simon with us today from Vegas, Nevada. Welcome Simon. 

Simon Lader: [00:00:26] Hi, thank you very much for having me on.

Trista, Host: [00:00:28] Yeah, thanks for being on. Now. We're going to talk about your plate, which is you have two plates, SINLIZ1 and SINLIZ2. And I'd love to hear about those plates and why you chose them. 

Simon Lader: [00:00:41] Okay. So coming from Vegas, everybody, when they see my self-driving SINLIZ1 or my wife driving SINLIZ2, they automatically assume it something to do with Sin City or something like that.

It's actually far more, simple than that. my name is Simon and, back in England, everyone called me Si. [00:01:00] And my wife's name is Elizabeth. And everyone calls her Liz. And we all Si N Liz, Si-N-Liz, SINLIZ. And in fact, when we were, when we got engaged back in 1999, I was a child groom.

when we got engaged, I, it was quite a cool thing at the time. Now it sounds horribly dated, but by then, it was a cool thing to have a, to when you sent out your engagement party, invitations, that you would have it from a cool kind of hip. You know, James loves nancy@hotmail.com. You know, Kathy and Graham's engagement party@yahoo.co.uk.

So, we had sinliz@hotmail.com and, so for a long time, people refer to us as SinLiz or Si and Liz. And, so when we moved to Vegas and I saw that as opposed to the UK where, vanity plates or are horrendously expensive? here they were reasonably affordable. I [00:02:00] decided that I would get SINLIZ1 and my wife would get SINLIZ2, and, 

and there we are. I mean, see on the surface, it's like Sin, Liz from Vegas. People would make a lot of assumptions that have nothing to do with the story you just shared. 

Absolutely. Of course.,The joke is that I'm the SIN and she's the LIZ, which is probably about right anyway.

Trista, Host: [00:02:25] Is that probably about right? Now, you're originally from England.

What part? 

I'm originally from Manchester. 

Are you both from Manchester ? 

Simon Lader: [00:02:32] I'm from Manchester and she's from Liverpool. so Liverpool is a place where everybody steals things. No, I'm kidding. but, it has, has the reputation of, of being more of a, Shall we say crime ridden hell hole. Where Manchester is, is a beautiful palatial utopia where everybody's nice to each other and crosses old ladies over the road.

Trista, Host: [00:02:53] That sounds amazing. Although isn't Liverpool where the Beatles are from. So that's only the only thing I know about. 

Simon Lader: [00:02:58] Okay. [00:03:00] Liverpool is where the Beatles left. 

Trista, Host: [00:03:01] Escaped from, 

Simon Lader: [00:03:04] yeah, 

Trista, Host: [00:03:06] very good. Now I want to delve into this a plate thing a little bit. Cause you and I talked about this when we first met and I asked you if you had SINLIZ in the UK and you scoffed at me because of the ridiculousness of my question.

Little did I know that the license plates are so expensive and you have to get them through an auction. 

Simon Lader: [00:03:29] Yes, that's right. I did. I remember scoffing and, and scoffing is something that I do extremely well, so absolutely. Yeah. We scoff with the best. So, so, yeah, the, in the UK, the driving a vehicle licensing agency is what DV LA stands for. It's the DMV equivalent in the UK. And it's an, it's a central government,as opposed, to a local government agency. And they assign, certain what we call number plates . these number plates are assigned, any, [00:04:00] anything that resembles in any way, a word or initials or anything like that, because I think that generated a random... they are kind of put to one side and then they're auctioned off. And so it's a way for, for the, for the departments to generate revenue. So the idea of anybody coming along and going, I want to register, you know, I'm called Simon and there has to be kind of letters and numbers. So I'm going to register 51 M O N to make Simon.

And by the way, I did look into doing this back in the UK. It costs $50,000. All right. Yeah, for sure. In fact, what probably happened already while somebody, when that license plate was first released back in the seventies, early eighties or whatever somebody went. Yeah. I'll buy that for, you know, five, $10,000, pounds, whatever.

And they've sat on it as an investment and people. Yeah. People invest in these things. So something that, which would have been worth, you know, a few thousand dollars would appreciate and [00:05:00] appreciate and value and be a genuine asset. 

Trista, Host: [00:05:02] I actually looked, I looked it up. There's a search you can do. And I didn't really get it because they don't really understand the UK numbering system with plates, but I couldn't seem to find even one that was an actual word because they had so many number combos that were required. And even those were between 500 and 1200 pounds. And some of them weren't even available without being up for auction, which means, who knows what they could be worth when they finally get 

Simon Lader: [00:05:32] purchased.

That's right. Yeah. 

Trista, Host: [00:05:35] So my dream of having a UK license plate on my plate story podcast, probably an overreach, but maybe, maybe fingers crossed someday.

Simon Lader: [00:05:46] I think it's, I think it's, I mean, it's certainly possible. and, there are people in the UK that do have them. I think what would be interesting is to see how they've managed, how they have been creative enough to, to [00:06:00] formulate the name, that brand, whatever, in this rather rigid structure of combining letters and numbers, that I think will be quite interesting.

Yeah. 

Trista, Host: [00:06:09] Now you moved to Vegas. How long 

Simon Lader: [00:06:11] ago? A little over seven years ago. Back in July, 2013. 

Trista, Host: [00:06:17] Wow. Oh, awesome. And you did that to establish a local US base for your company. Tell us a little about your company and what you guys do. 

Okay. So, Simon Lader: [00:06:27] I am the founder and CEO of, the Salisi group, which is, Salisi Human Capital, which is a, a headhunting executive search and headhunting firm specializing in the, executive search in the technology space.

I'm also. the founder of the Salisi Academy, which we started, the end of last year, which is a training and development company specifically to help, individuals, who are looking to achieve, life transformation [00:07:00] by changing jobs. The point being that lots and lots of people are unhappy in their lives because they're in the wrong job, they're unhappy in their jobs.

So if we can help them, Change their jobs and be happier in their jobs, then they'll be happier in their lives as well. All right. So that's a, a training and development company, mainly through video, but also through of like virtual coaching. And then we've just launched the Salisi Incubator, which is a training development company for scaling businesses who are looking to, achieve best practice and a scale by having the right people, doing the right jobs in the right positions.

That's awesome. And, Trista, Host: [00:07:38] you and your wife, do you both work that business together? 

Simon Lader: [00:07:43] We did. I mean, she's also in the business. She was the co-founder of, of, of Salisi. she is, she runs the research side of, obviously the human capital and also oversees the traffic, of, of Salisi Academy.

And, Salisi [00:08:00] incubator. 

Trista, Host: [00:08:01] That's awesome. So as the founder and CEO, 

Simon Lader: [00:08:05] A bit 

Trista, Host: [00:08:06] lower....

oh, sorry, let me try it again. The founder and see, I'm not James Earl Jones

as the founder and CEO. what's your role these days? All the way in Vegas, because you founded this company in the UK. 

Yes. Yeah. That's right. Simon Lader: [00:08:25] so, I'm surrounded by some very, very good people. one or two terrible ones now. No, I'm kidding. They're all fine. Now I'm surrounded by very good people. And, my role predominantly is defining strategy, leading the company, through, I mean, we had some pretty, pretty rough sailing. a few months ago you may have heard there was a small pandemic that happened. 

Trista, Host: [00:08:47] So 

Simon Lader: [00:08:48] yeah. So, there had to be a little bit of, of guiding, the good ship Salisi through some rather choppy waters.

so, yeah, it's, it's, Classic kind of leadership role that I [00:09:00] have, but also an ambassadorial role. So I'm the kind of premia facia of the company. I'm the one that's kind of out there doing the kind of song and dance routine, in the media, I'm the primary spokesman for the company. part of that strategy was me, launching our podcast, which I host.

And, yeah, so that's, that's basically what, what, what kind of keeps me busy. Oh, and I'm also assistant math teacher of the Simon and Liz Home School. 

Ah, sure. That's important. That's probably the most important job you have. 

Yeah. I used to be a math teacher in, in my, in my very early days. So really? 

Trista, Host: [00:09:34] How did you go from math teacher to Founder and CEO?

Simon Lader: [00:09:40] Beautifully put, 

Trista, Host: [00:09:41] I'm working on it. 

You did great. Simon Lader: [00:09:42] I was a math teacher, while I was working my way through college. and I. Went from, went from school into, you know, kind of bouncing through a few different jobs.

And then I started my own company, which funnily enough, totally unrelated, but just, there's a little bit of poetic, symmetry to this, [00:10:00] was installing and selling car alarm and car entertainment systems. So kind of. In the whole kind of call mileau as it were. so I grew that did all right with that. 

There's one competitor in particular. I was really eating his lunch. And so, he just decided they were bigger than me. but they were, I was really kind of skinning them and, so they bought me out. So as I, okay, fine. So the age of 24, I like, I no, sort of 22. I was like, no, where do I go? Okay. I can't retire.

Right. but okay, now what do I do? So I, I, it's funny thinking about it. I was quite tweaked, but, every Thursday. The Manchester evening news, the local paper had a job section. So I kind of go leafing through the job section. And I see a, advertisement in the job section, for this company that was advertising all these different jobs.

It's not like, Ooh, that was quite interesting. These jobs are quite, yeah. Some are in sales some are in marketing. sales [00:11:00] marketing was a lot of what I was doing for, for my, for the company I just sold. In fact that was pretty much all I was doing. Cause by the way, for a guy that ran a company doing car alarms, I knew nothing at all about installing car alarms.

so I called this company up and they were like, yeah, come down for an interview. So I went in and I was so naive. I didn't even realize that this company was a recruitment company. They were advertising for their clients. Right. And realize, so, They, they were talking and I was actually the, the CEO of the company.

His name was Mark, who interviewed me. And by the end of the interview, he said, you do realize we're actually hiring internally and we think you'd be a great fit. Do you want to come and work here? And I was like, yeah, great. You know, you and I've already got on. It's been great. Fantastic. He said, fantastic.

Okay, great, brilliant. and I said, okay, just one small question. He said, yeah. I said, what exactly do you guys do? And, cause I was like, this guy was so charismatic. He was so, inspirational that I was like, I am [00:12:00] gonna learn from this guy. I don't care whether it takes me three months, you know, three weeks, three years, I'm going to just suck up as much as I can from this guy, because I can, I can just learn so much from him.

Right. He w he was just such an inspiration to me, it just in that, in that brief time. And so he said, okay, we're head hunters, this is what we do this is how we do it, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, okay, is it sales pretty much? Is it helping people? Yeah. Right. Where do I sign? And I worked with them for four years. I was basically his right hand man for four years.

then I decided I wanted to try and get more of a corporate, some more corporate experience in head hunting. So I went to work for a larger company and I worked for a guy called Chris and I met the most amazing, amazing person called Nicola, who subsequently became a business partner of mine. 

She's one of my senior content people ,for Salisi Incubator. And she's an amazing, amazing human being. [00:13:00] and, four years later, we started Salisi. Or should I say I founded and CEO'd Salisi.

Trista, Host: [00:13:07] That's awesome. Yeah. I love that. You kind of kept the whole sales and marketing thread. 

Simon Lader: [00:13:14] I think so. I mean, I think the, the biggest, the biggest demand on any startup on any business founder is sales because at the end of the day, If you think of, if you think of, or, I mean, you can use a number of different analogies.

And the one that I favor the most, is, cash is the oxygen that's going to keep the business going and sales of the lungs. It's that simple. If your lungs aren't working, if you're not bringing in the oxygen.

Then the thing's never going to get off the ground. It's just going to die before it starts. And so it's really, really critical that the majority of the time the, you are, that is assigned to the business from everybody in the business. If the majority of their activities and the time they are [00:14:00] spending is not revenue generating activity, then the business will fail.

It's that simple. 

Absolutely. I love the analogy of the lungs and the oxygen. I think that's brilliant. Trista, Host: [00:14:12] now you mentioned you have a podcast. Yeah. Let's dive into that a little bit. What's the name of your podcast? 

Simon Lader: [00:14:18] The podcast is called The Conference Room. Oh, the conference room. 

Trista, Host: [00:14:24] I think you need to get a little lower.

The conference room, the 

Simon Lader: [00:14:27] conference room. 

Trista, Host: [00:14:29] Nice. You do it better than I do. 

It's because I'm sitting low down. Simon Lader: [00:14:33] yeah. The Conference Room is basically, it's, it's me talking to experts in a whole rough of areas pertaining to starting and growing successful businesses. So, it's kind of take it back a little bit.... when we were formulating the concept of doing a podcast, I thought [00:15:00] to myself, I can think of nothing more boring or dull than hearing me talk about business for 20-30 minutes. I would probably rather put a knitting needle in my eye than put myself through that. So why would I invite the podcasting listening world to participate in such a painful exercise?

However, I've been interviewing in a professional capacity for over 20 years as a head Hunter. So I'm pretty good at asking questions. So what I think would be a good idea and market testing suggested that it probably is, is me, me and my colleagues thinking about right. Okay. When we started, we've all started businesses. Right. And in those periods, there are lots of questions that you have, whether it's not sales or marketing or finance or, or talking to investors or raising funding or generating leads ... whatever it is, right? Whatever you kind of businesses, there are a number of areas that are going [00:16:00] to know about a number of areas you're going to know very little about and a number of areas that you think, Oh, is this the right thing or not? So you're going to want to have some education and then anything from: I've identified this problem. And I know nothing about it. I've identified this situation. I think kind of what the right thing to do is. Can I just validate it or I'm doing this and I'm certain it's the right thing to do, but it'd just be nice to know that the, the, this is best practice. Right? So the conference room is me talking to experts in the field about a wide spectrum of areas of interest, to small and scaling businesses. 

Trista, Host: [00:16:44] I love that.

Simon Lader: [00:16:46] very little of it is my expertise because frankly I have very little. 

Well, I would disagree with that because you sold the business and have grown a business and have moved a business to a whole other country. You're global founder [00:17:00] and CEO business owner. Right. So I would disagree with you. Trista, Host: [00:17:05] but I think that's great. And you have plenty of people to talk to, right? Cause every client you have that you do recruiting and head hunting and placement for would probably be a good potential guests.

Simon Lader: [00:17:18] Absolutely. And we have, we're very lucky that we can be quite discerning. so we have, I mean, I've got a very, a wide number of people that I think would be very interested in coming on the podcast. the two criteria are have, and th this is actually the same one. I get invited onto podcasts. The two criteria, I have a very simple number one.

They have to be genuine experts in the field. So somebody who's kind of played at it and not been very good. Then thanks, but no thanks. so there has to be genuine value there. All right. and the other thing is that this got to be a chemistry I have to actually get on with the person, because frankly, if I'm not entertained, I don't think the wider podcasting listening public will be over.

So, I have to actually enjoy it. And frankly, my [00:18:00] podcast, in many ways, it's very similar to this one where I'm sure the people that are listening to this feel that they're being invited into a conversation between two friends. that's very much how, how I have structured my podcast as well. 

Trista, Host: [00:18:14] Yeah, I created a podcast that I would enjoy listening to. 

Simon Lader: [00:18:18] There's a broadcast. I listen to. He actually does a podcast, as well as a broadcaster. I listened to on the BBC, which you may have heard of. It's a small radio broadcasting organization in England. Yes. 

Trista, Host: [00:18:27] I think they started the pandemic. 

Simon Lader: [00:18:29] Right. No, they started broadcasting anyway.

they, they, probably the, the leading broadcaster on the BBC as a gentleman called Simon Mayo. For my I'm a huge fan. And, I remember listening to an interview that he did as in someone interviewing him about broadcasting in general. And he said that when the, the programs that he creates are programs that he would either watch on TV or listen to on the radio.

And when he's broadcasting, he talks to one person, he doesn't think about the [00:19:00] big general listening public. He talks to one person. So like right now I feel very much that I'm talking to you. I'm ignoring the fact that there may well be, you know, hundreds of thousands of people that are going to be listening to some stage. Right now I'm just talking to you and I, and I feel in return that you're just talking to me and again, ignoring the fact, there are hundreds of thousands of people that are also going to be listening. And again, that's very much how I've tried to structure the, the format, my own podcast as 

Trista, Host: [00:19:23] well. Yeah. I love that.

That's actually a good presenter tip as well. So if you're presenting, you never say, how does everybody feel? You say, how do you feel? Yeah. What does everybody think? What do you think? Because there's only one person ever. It's it's not that you're talking to a room full of people or thousands of people you're talking to 1000 individuals.

 right now you have a tool kit that I would love to hear about, so tell me about your toolkit.

Simon Lader: [00:19:57] Okay. So, we have just released the [00:20:00] ultimate job hunting toolkit, which is a toolkit specifically for people who are on either unhappy or off thinking about it's time for a change in the job.

Okay. we talked a little earlier about my passion of transforming lives through transforming people's careers and the job hunting toolkit is the ideal entry points for that journey. Okay. So the toolkit consists of, all of the things that you're going to need to get you from: I think I need to change my job, but I don't know what job to change it to how to articulate your experience in a fantastic resume that's going to draw interest from the companies and the jobs that you identified using the previous tool all the way through to, how to prepare for interview and how to really wow

your interviews and crush your competition through [00:21:00] interviewing really effectively. How to, how to structure a pipeline of opportunities. So that rather than just having one job offer coming in, having multiple job offers coming in and they all coming in at the same time. So rather than you having to kind of like, just pick the one cousin, that's the one that came and it's better than the awful thing I'm doing right now.

You have two, three, maybe four job opportunities and you get to pick the very best and all that is available in the Ultimate Job Hunting Toolkit, which is found at ultimatejobhuntingtoolkit.com or on my own website, Simonlader.com. I 

love it. Job hunting. Trista, Host: [00:21:42] It's very different than it was when I was looking for jobs 20 years ago. And I can't believe it's that long ago, but yes, exactly when I was five. Yes. I'm young. Like you.

Okay. We both started as infants in [00:22:00] our professional careers. Yes. But yeah, I mean to navigate that these days is so challenging, especially for someone who's not growing up in this current environment, but somebody like myself who has maybe, you know, 35, 40, 45 50, the job hunting market is so different then it was when those people were getting 

Simon Lader: [00:22:25] jobs a hundred percent. I cannot imagine how intimidating it must be for somebody who is very accomplished in their career. All right. has been doing maybe work in the same job for say five, six, maybe 10 years. All right. Wants to change because maybe the company has suffered some ill fortune.

Maybe there's been a change of leadership and they're not enjoying who they're working with anymore. Maybe they just feel stale and want to change. 

Trista, Host: [00:22:52] Maybe a pandemic happened. 

Simon Lader: [00:22:55] Yeah. Yeah. They're seriously. Maybe they were furloughed, whatever reasons, whatever. for [00:23:00] any of these reasons that they might find themselves in a situation where they either want or need to make a change.

Okay. And if they haven't done this for a while, then hearing terms like job boards, LinkedIn profiles, ATS. Any of the stuff and they're going to be like, what, who, what what's for some people, just the idea of sitting down and writing a resume, they've been like, I genuinely don't know where to start. Okay.

So the beauty of the tool toolkit is that it guides people through all that process. And for those who need additional help, there's a video, a video series that accompanies it. And for those that would like even more help, we offer full mentoring service as well. So all of that's available. but I think the core and key messages key message is number one, your life is not a dress rehearsal and you must not waste your life being in a job that gives you unhappiness.

And once you've internalized that, and you [00:24:00] don't have to... the same way people, I think now and over the last maybe 10 years or so, it's become society acceptable to not have to endure a toxic relationship with a partner or a spouse. I think that people now need to realize they do not need to have a toxic relationship with a job.

Okay. Now, having internalized that. The next thing for people to know is that there is help available. They never need to feel. the, the changes that they want to make are unattainable because they don't know where to start. The help is available. 

Trista, Host: [00:24:40] That's really powerful. Thank you for making sure. That's true.

That's really great. 

Simon Lader: [00:24:45] I love it.It's something I feel really strongly about. If I could just Say if I can just leave you with one teeny weeny story. So my, I, before I, before I found headhunting, actually, before I started the, the, the car loan company, I was working in a job and I [00:25:00] don't even have for short time. And it was, it was a tiny marketing hammering the phones job. And I really wasn't happy. It really made me very unhappy. And I remember talking to my dad and my dad told me that he, he had spent probably four or five years training in the UK and then also, elsewhere to be, a, a confectioner, right. A pastry chef. What we call here a pastry chef, right.

And. He after he graduated and got his licenses and whatever, he went to work in a bakery. Now my dad's, he was all about detail and perfection and just, you know, he was a real Artisan. Okay. Unfortunately, the bakery that he was working for, and this was when he was in his early twenties, right? The bakery who was working for it was just like stack them high, sell them, get them out.

It was all about quantity, not about quality. And he was working there for a couple of years. And remember, this is we're now talking. This is probably the mid sixties. And [00:26:00] then it was a case of and ...certainly in the North of England, you've got a job. Be happy. You've got a job, right. So for a good couple of years, my dad was utterly miserable in his job. Miserable.

Okay. And it was of all people. It was his, his uncle who I believe is still alive. my great uncle who took my dad under his wing and guided him into finding a completely different career, a career that my dad loved. He went on to be extremely successful in of all things, , office equipment, selling office equipment and, and sending it through to businesses and whatever, and had a very, very, very successful career doing all because a kindly uncle identified that his life was miserable because he was simply in the wrong job. And I think we all need that kindly uncle, everybody needs that, that person in their life, either physically or [00:27:00] remotely to say to them, if you're not happy in your job. And if you're unhappy from most of the waking hours from when you wake up on a Monday morning to get to sleep on a Friday night, if most of those working hours are making you unhappy, your life will be unhappy and you only get one life. Okay. My dad passed away in 2012. and, thank God for the majority of his working life he was very happy, but that would have been very different had his uncle not put his arm around his shoulder and change that completely. And I was very, very lucky in my early twenties that my dad did the same thing for me. And I want to pay it forward and help other people. 

So a message from your kindly uncle Simon, if you're not happy and following your passion, there is an answer and it is the ultimate job hunting 

tool kit.

Okay. Yes, absolutely. 

Trista, Host: [00:27:51] That's awesome. Now I do always like to turn the tables and ask you, if you have one question you'd like to ponder toward me [00:28:00] before we wrap up, do you have a question?

Simon Lader: [00:28:01] absolutely do. Which is okay. I'm ready. I have an aquarium in my house and some of my, and some of the machinery for my aquarium is disguised obscured by if you like, potted plants, that always die. And I noticed just over your shoulder, you have the most beautiful, I think it's a rubber plant. If I can see, if I'm, if I'm not mistaken, that looks beautiful.

My question is how do you manage to keep your plant alive when I seem to be the kiss of death to mine. 

Trista, Host: [00:28:33] that's a great question. So the first thing you have to do is buy plants that don't die, plants that no matter what you do to them, They somehow figure out how to live. They're like the roaches of plants.

So that's the first thing. And the second thing is you need to be married or roommates with someone who remembers to water said [00:29:00] Roach plants, and third, just, you know, give the rest to the plant and the universe and hope for the best. I also have a black thumb. I can't take credit for the plant behind me, in fact, Throughout my life.

I love having greenery around me. I have this big, huge, huge picture window right next to me. There's this big, beautiful tree that sits right outside. I love the look of green, you know, especially natural green in my life, but I also have a black thumb. So this plant, I have one behind me, one over there and one in the bathroom.

It's the only plant we have in the house, except hold on. See. So there's also this thing here. Do you see it? 

Simon Lader: [00:29:47] It's 

Trista, Host: [00:29:47] it's a succulent. But unfortunately it's brother didn't do as well. This is the video version. Only you guys. This is video only content right here.

Simon Lader: [00:29:59] Let me [00:30:00] describe what we're saying. It's a lovely green ceramic, plant pot that has a very beautiful small handheld, plant on one side. And what only can be described as a nuclear Holocaust of vegetation on the other. 

Trista, Host: [00:30:17] Yeah, so plants in my life sort of hit or miss, but that was a fun question. Yes, exactly.

And I've had so much fun with you today, Simon. I really appreciate you being on. 

Simon Lader: [00:30:30] So it's been a genuine pleasure. Thank you so much for having me on Trista. 

Yeah. And I wish you all the best with your toolkit and all of your ventures. Is there any last word or last comment you'd like to share before we close out?

Only for people to remember that, life is not a dress rehearsal though. And if you're not happy, it's up to you to change it. 

Trista, Host: [00:30:51] Perfect. Perfect. Last word to end on. Thanks Simon. Have a great day. 

Simon Lader: [00:30:56] You too. Thank you very much for having me. 

Trista, Host: [00:30:58] Thank you for joining [00:31:00] us for this week's episode of Trista's PL8STORY podcast. Please subscribe to Trista's PL8STORY podcast to get the story behind all those vanity plates, driving with you on the road. And if you would like to nominate the owner of a license plate, including you... Or visit any of our partners and sponsors come and see us www.pl8story.com. That's P L number eight story.com and give us the details. 

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